Characters you'd like to see LEAVE

[Segan]

Same as the poll on Sonic Blast, now with better grammar (and an actual poll)!

I started this to compare the maturity of this site to some of the other Sonic fan sites around the internet.

OK, we all know a lot of us have characters we want to return or appear more often, but here's a twist, who do you just plain old want to(as spammers would say) DIE, out of all the characters in right now.

please, no flaming if a character you like is picked, or egging people about their opinion of a character, or egging on YOUR opinion of a character, I'd like to think we're above that,

mine would be Eggman, Cosmo, and the Babylon rouges... You lost me at Eggman...

But anyway, who do you think? I omitted some of the more obvious ones (Cream, Amy, Big, Chaotix, etc.), because I wanted this topic to concern only the most relevant characters to the series, and because those would get the most votes anyway.

[Day]

Anyone that came after Big.

Bar Silver.

He has uses as a fucktoy.

[Deano]

Shadow, just to see the entire Shadow fangirl community EXPLODE.

And he's a dick.

[Sonikku]

Eh, I'm undecided. Nobody really jumps out at me from that list. Clearly you can't get rid of Sonic because he is the namesake character of the Sonic the Hedgehog series. You can't get rid of Eggman because he is the primary villain in the series. Shadow clearly has a fairly large fan base and people will buy games with him in it. I've never played the new Sonic game for 360/PS3 so I can't give an honest opinion on Silver. Tails is one of my favorite characters and Sonic's sidekick, so he has to stay. I am not really a huge fan of Knuckles, but he's been around so long that you can't really get rid of him. So I suppose I don't really want any character to leave.

[Neotails]

Shadow, because...

-Sonic: Main character.

-Tails: Sidekick who's been there almost as long as the main character.

-Knuckles: Friend and rival, and guardian of the Master Emerald, a pivotal item in the Sonic world.

-Robotnik: Antagonist.

-Silver: Honestly can't say anything about him, I don't have a 360 and thus no way of playing Sonic 06.

-Shadow: He contributes nothing to the series. America's love for edgy and dark characters led to his overwhelming popularity, which led to him being revived from the dead, which led to him getting his own game, which created even more plot holes. We had his whole backstory Sonic Adventure 2, the only question that needed to be answered was how he survived. Now they expect us to believe Gerald Robotnik created Shadow to save the Earth from aliens, when in Sonic Adventure 2, he went insane and became hellbent on destroying it? Wow, way to contradict the story.

Shadow's too popular so he's obviously not going anywhere. But since he doesn't benefit the series in the slightest, I wouldn't miss him if he were axed.

[Steg]

Shadow, for reasons already stated.

Though I admit that people such as those Babylon fuckers are a complete waste of space and arent doing the series any good. But there's no point really, the series has been in the shitter even since they introduced Shadow, with the exception of the Sonic Rush games.

[Alex Kaisentrifel]

I'd say Shadow. He is really unnecessary, and makes the smart Shadow fans look bad since he attracts a bunch of moronic fanboys and rabid fangirls who think they're married to him.

He created WAY too many plotholes, his fans tend to hate Sonic, his fans tend to flame those who hate Shadow, and they usually draw Shadow shooting characters like Sonic, Big, the Chaotix, and a lot of cool characters.

He made too much of a mess, get rid of him, and maybe they could get back in track, since every game after Heroes Shadow was in was given a bad rating.

[Black Knight]

Shadow should of stayed dead after saying on Sonic Adventure 2...

All characters that appeared after Shadow should also be kicked, though I can't really say that about Silver as I haven't played Sonic 06.

[Jaícei]

Shadow (keep him dead) and everyone post SA2. This would not count the Chaotix, obviously, as they were much older characters.

[Rudeboy Krazy]

Silver. I don't know the character that well, I don't own a 360. The only reason I'd like to see him leave is because he's a new character AND I'M SICK OF NEW SONIC CHARACTERS EVERY TIME A NEW GAME COMES OUT.

[Segan]

For those of you who haven't played the new games, Silver's basically the moral opposite of Shadow, so he's just as bad, if not worse. He's brought virtually nothing to the series, and (like Shadow) there's no reason to put him in any more games, though I'm afraid they will.

[Rudeboy Krazy]

For those of you who haven't played the new games, Silver's basically the moral opposite of Shadow, so he's just as bad, if not worse. He's brought virtually nothing to the series, and (like Shadow) there's no reason to put him in any more games, though I'm afraid they will.

I'm afraid it's too late. He's already in the Sonic Rivals series and has a cameo in SSMB (Sonic's stage). I think he has become one of Sonic's closer 'friends' now, along with Tails and Knuckles.

I kind of wish they just didn't add him in the Sonic series, along with all of the new characters from the Sonic games after Heroes. (I'm not saying after the Adventure series because they didn't introduce any new characters in Heroes other than E-123 Omega, unless you counted the Chaotix re-intro as adding new characters) There's just too many characters in the Sonic series as it is. I mean, after two or three games they can feel free to introduce another one.

As it is, I'm not too enthusiastic about the size of the cast.

[Tizo The Hedgehog]

I vote for Silver he his extremly annoying and slow, he only caught some popularity because kids like that telekenises stuff, but I wouldn't mind if he just disappeared

[Eileanach]

I would say Shadow. he's a pain in the ass and there are reasons already stated that I cannot compete with so I agree with them.

[Entrail]

Get rid of Shadow and all character post SA2. And Big. get Big the FUCK out of the series.

And stop making ROBOTNIK the secondary villain. He's the Bad guy, let him be the bad guy in one of these 3D games, not some wannabe badguy that plays second fiddle to Chaos, Biolizard, Metal Sonic, Mephilis (spelling) or whoever.

[TCkaos]

I'd say these characters:

Silver, Big, that new robot no one loves, Rouge, Vecter, Charmy, and that new generic villain that we see every so often that does something retarded that ends up making the villains and heroes to team up and go into a super form and get defeated.

[Alex Kaisentrifel]

Get rid of Shadow and all character post SA2. And Big. get Big the FUCK out of the series.

And stop making ROBOTNIK the secondary villain. He's the Bad guy, let him be the bad guy in one of these 3D games, not some wannabe badguy that plays second fiddle to Chaos, Biolizard, Metal Sonic, Mephilis (spelling) or whoever.

No way! Big rules! D:

But I agree with the 2nd part. Robotnik should be the main villain; they should stop making him work together with the heroes. He always had great plans, but now he's just an ordinary.

They don't care about their old characters, don't they? All they want to do is attract fans by putting in more generic characters.

[Steg]

And stop making ROBOTNIK the secondary villain. He's the Bad guy, let him be the bad guy in one of these 3D games, not some wannabe badguy that plays second fiddle to Chaos, Biolizard, Metal Sonic, Mephilis (spelling) or whoever.
I love you.

[Neotails]

Yep, Robotnik being the villain until the final story where his new creation goes berserk and he temporarily turns to the good side, it's gotten old.

Oh, and Big's one of the ones who should stay. He's one of the better characters of the current games, and he doesn't even appear that often. Just because he's not too bright and his fishing levels in SA1 were boring doesn't mean he's a bad character. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say he's one of my favorite Sonic characters. :)

[TCkaos]

I'm just glad that the new RPG will have Robotnik as a force to be reckoned with once again.

Also, I'm debating with myself whether I like Shadow or not. He's like the whiny emo of the series, but he was so amazing in SA2 that I throw everything else out of the window. I didn't want Shadow to die, but if he lives everything goes head first down a 90 degree incline.

[Black Knight]

He was good in SA2, but he should of stayed dead after that game.

[Entrail]

Y'see, that's just the point. Big's sections in SA1 were pointless, boring and repetative. If I wanted a fishing game on the Dreamcast, I'd have bought that motion sensing fishing rod they made and the game to go with it. The Big section felt like Sonic Team were just trying to cram one more 'alternate' gameplay style into a game and a fat lazy cat to play as. They only used him again, really, in Heroes, to bulk up the again pointless Team Rose.

In my opinion, Big should be cremated and remove all together. I'm just thanking Zod he's not been put into a major sonic game since Heroes. If you like him, you like him, I'm not gonna try and change your minds on it.

[Crimson The Dark Bat]

Big is nothing more than a space-filler.

[Entrail]

Big is nothing more than a space-filler.

THANKYOU.

[Segan]

A space-filler... for a space that isn't there.

I don't get their mindset, the BEST games were the ones with 3 or 4 characters, so why do they feel so compelled to throw in 50, and throw EVERY ONE IN EVERY GAME.

[Tgman12]

Silver, mostly because...

Sonic:Hello main character.

Tails:Sidekick and best friend.

Knuckles:Rival and protecter of the Master Emerald.

Shadow:To big of fan base by now thus almost impossible to get rid off.He'd be better if Sonic team improved his attitude.

Silver:pointless chracter only real useful for plot in Sonic 06.

[Espio]

Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Eggman have to stay! Shadow, well, every franchise needs a bad-ass character and Silver is just random....oo
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[Sanic]

... You know what I'm going to say, but I'll say it anyway. (Hey, that rhymed)

Every character post SA2. In fact... every character post SA1. Biohazard ruled, though. Shadow and Rouge brought nothing to the series barring rabid, unintelligent (sorry to those of you who like shadow, and have more than 2 brain cells) fangirls and sweaty male teens looking for a more 'feminine' character, If you know what I mean. To be honest, they should've stopped the 'Robotnik is main bad guy for like half the thing, then something else fucks him and everyone else up, then Super Sawnik comes in to DESTROI' plot with SA2. Overdone. Plus ROBOTNIK, SEGA, ROBOTNIK, should totally be the main villan again. He worked well in S1-3&K, why get rid of the idea for SA?

One thing that SA2 had was the Chao garden, though. Vastly superior. But even with it, it didn't help Shadow and Rouge, did it? SA had a better story mode. 'Play as one Character for a while, unlocking more as you go, and play as the others to unlock the final story, while everyone else's story ties into each other in some way.'

What I'm trying to get at is SA should've been the last. SEGA should've quit while they were ahead, or make something other than SA2. SUMMARY TIEM NEGROES-

-SA2 brought 2 characters into the series not really doing much
-SA2 had inferior story mode
-SA2 had Robotnik STILL be a minor villan-turned-good-guy-in-the-end, FFS
-SA2 had better Chao Garden, though
-Everything after SA2 was a failed re-hash

Also, SA2 was too angsty for Sonic games. Fucking Shadow had to come in and wreck everything.

(Also, In terms of how good the gameplay is, disregard this post. SA2 is still a kickass game.)

[Segan]

Honestly, when Sonic Adventure came out it was such a radical diversion from the originals that I assumed that it would just be a one-time only experiment, and that the next game would be much more along the lines of Sonic and Knuckles. I think that's what a lot of fans expected.

I'm not sure what happened next, either SEGA was being rushed into throwing out a sequel and didn't have enough time to develop an original game, or SEGA just started doing what they've done for every game since, do the exact opposite of what the fans want.

Either way, look where we are now. 10 years later and SEGA has yet to make a game that truly breaks away from the Sonic Adventure formula, and it sucks big time.

[Entrail]

Honestly, when Sonic Adventure came out it was such a radical diversion from the originals that I assumed that it would just be a one-time only experiment, and that the next game would be much more along the lines of Sonic and Knuckles. I think that's what a lot of fans expected.

I'm not sure what happened next, either SEGA was being rushed into throwing out a sequel and didn't have enough time to develop an original game, or SEGA just started doing what they've done for every game since, do the exact opposite of what the fans want.

Either way, look where we are now. 10 years later and SEGA has yet to make a game that truly breaks away from the Sonic Adventure formula, and it sucks big time.

In edition to that, but also create spin off games using the SA formula. Riders, anyone?

Plus, sticking Sonic n pals in that olympic games thing was just a way of getting some use out of the francise. SEGA and Sonic team need to do the following with any new sonic game

1) No more new characters
2) No more crowbaring in new features and pointless abilities
3) No more games with a gimmick (Again, Riders and Heroes)
4) Robotnik is the villain.

[Sonikku]

They need to just take all the good things from the Sonic Adventure games, and use those to make a new game. Sonic Adventure 3 perhaps?

[Tgman12]

Anything that would have Robotnik as the main villain in all storys and not some weird demon thing that wants to destroy the planet. Also HAS to be on Mobius.

[Blacky]

pssh. I could go on on this topic forever, but there's one villian I would rather not see rear his ugly head again that no one has mentioned:

EGGMAN NEGA.

Ok, he's from another dimension. Ok, from opposite worlds. That mirror each other apparently.

wait... this poses a few huge problems.
1. If he's the doppleganger of eggman, wouldn't that make him good?
2. If there is a eggman counterpart... which means the universe reflects... shouldn't there be counterparts to like, sonic/tails etc.
Or wait. Nega Sonic already exists. His name is Shadow. Or metal sonic... or... you get the point. Apparently, everyone in the sega universe will have a counterpa... lets not jinx that.
OOH, who wouldn't want to see the tails doll show its (ugly) face again?
3. Why would you create two characters with nearly the same name, and the same personality?
IN ZA GAMEZ
Sonic Rush:
Pointless. I would've rather seen a robot eggman or something along that line. Or metal sonic? hmm...

Sonic Rush Adventure:
He's -not- a freaking secondary villain. (Which left poor Robotnik as the secondary villian)

So many character flaws. It makes me angry to enjoy the rush series.

[GaraaGX]

I say Egg man, like he has alot of villanes like shadow and sonic metal sonic the show dose'nt need Egg Man.He's just a guy that's in sonics way and I bet sonic is preaty mad at Egg Man.

[Kid_Emo]

I say Egg man, like he has alot of villanes like shadow and sonic metal sonic the show dose'nt need Egg Man.He's just a guy that's in sonics way and I bet sonic is preaty mad at Egg Man.

Okay, a few things I have to say here, pal.

1. Eggman is -THE- villan. From the beginning, and to the end. As for him being, 'a guy that's in Sonic's way,' that's what a villian IS.
2. Shadow isn't a villian anymore. He works for G.U.N now, and G.U.N. are good guys. He's more of an anti-hero.
3. There is no three.

But at anyrate, I'd like to see Shadow given the boot. Preferably a steel-toed one to the crotch.

Peace,

Kid_Emo

[Crimson The Dark Bat]

Dump Shadow! He's just repetitive. It's always "Who am I?" or "How do you know my name?". God, that's just pure cliched...
Yes, he's got his good points, but still, since Shadow The Hedgehog on PS2, he practically signed his death sentence...

[Orange]

Dump Shadow! He's just repetitive. It's always "Who am I?" or "How do you know my name?". God, that's just pure cliched...
Yes, he's got his good points, but still, since Shadow The Hedgehog on PS2, he practically signed his death sentence...

[Ottomana]

Shadow. The explosion of fangirls was worse at the start... Then the game was bad enough...

As much as I love philosophy with all those "Who am I" questions, but not in a video game where you have to save/destroy the world scenarios to answer who you are.


I never played Sonic 06, so I have no opinions about Silver.

Everyone else pretty much answered what I would say about Tails and Eggman :3

[Orange]

You Guys Want Thome Thuper Cheese Or Thumthing?

[Steg]

I say Egg man, like he has alot of villanes like shadow and sonic metal sonic the show dose'nt need Egg Man.He's just a guy that's in sonics way and I bet sonic is preaty mad at Egg Man.
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