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Skippy
February 20th, 2008, 07:54 PM
all my bios will come here. They are still being written. :)

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Name: Skippy
age: 21
species: Hedgehog
element: Earth, air, water, and fire
forms: Super Form, Hyper form, Ultra form, Dark super form,
Planet: Mycelium
Hometown: Retseciel
Occupation: Survivalist
type: Speed/power
alignment: hero
Team name: Team Nuclear
team position: leader
Relationship: Married, Karalyn the hedgehog
Children: Peter
Theme: War - Edwin Starr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbwXq27uDz4)
Appeance: Dark green with blue of tips of spikes. Red chest with green and white shoes and red arms.
back-story: Skippy was part of a gang called Team Nuclear when he was a child. Him and his friends Two-Bit the Hedgehog, Mike the Armadillo, Arch the hedgehog, Curt the penguin, Dally the Ant, and Spike the hedgehog (who died almost immediately after the gang was formed) fought for survival, territory, and power. Neo, Skippy’s brother, ran a shop to help support him and Skippy after their parents disappeared. Skippy and friends often hung out there. One day Neo disappeared and left Skippy $10000! Skippy either had to stay with his friends and live a harsh life even with that money. Or he could leave the planet, and start a new life. Skippy chose to leave his planet. He had said his goodbyes and had packed. When he was about to leave, Two-Bit jumped off the building. Two-Bit’s parents were drunks and he had it the worst out of all of them. So when Skippy, his best friend, was leaving he couldn’t take it. Skippy knew that he couldn’t stay after that. He wanted his friends to come, but he didn’t have enough money. So he left his home planet, forever. He later on landed on Homage where he met Spike and Karalyn. They were brother and sister. He quickly befriended the both of them. They were both top class, rich people. When Skippy shared his story of pain and sorrow. Spike and Karalyn were in shock. Skippy explained that he wanted to return someday to help his friends escape that Hellhole. But until then, Skippy was welcome at Spike and Karalyn’s home. Skippy loved it there. One time he accidentally walked into the bathroom while Karalyn was showering. He got smacked for that one. But Skippy and Karalyn started developing crushes on each other. Spike dreaded this. He told Skippy: “If you break my sister’s heart, I’ll kill you slowly and painfully.” Skippy merely shrugged and said “If I break your sister’s heart I’ll kill myself slowly and painfully.” They both laughed. Skippy and Spike were the best of friends. Skippy, the next year, surprisingly got a letter. It was from Mike. Apparently Anti-Skippy, Skippy’s science experiment for school gone wrong, had gathered a gang, and destroyed his town. Killing everyone. Skippy has filled with range at this. The rage caused his inner powers to be unlocked. He had gained his ultimate power. He could do some small Nuclear blasts that lasted a second. Now he could do full on explosions that lasted minutes. He nearly destroyed Spike and Karalyn’s mansion. After that incident Skippy decided to leave Homage and go to Earth. Spike and Karalyn went with him because their life was bland before Skippy arrived. So they all went to Earth together. When they arrived, Skippy had asked Karalyn to marry him. They had been Dating for a year now. She agreed and they got Married with Spike as the best man, and Amanda, Spike’s Wife and Karalyn’s best friend, as the maid of Honor. After the marriage all 4 of them formed the new Team Nuclear.

Alex Kaisentrifel
February 20th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Eh, it could use more work. Personally, I'd ditch the forms since those are similar to Sonic's forms, but you don't have to take my word. You can keep them if that's what you want.

He could also use a personality. He seems a bit generic and simple. Also, if would help if you make the back story more visible, like put spaces in between the information to make it stand out.

Skippy
February 21st, 2008, 08:15 AM
Eh, it could use more work. Personally, I'd ditch the forms since those are similar to Sonic's forms, but you don't have to take my word. You can keep them if that's what you want.

He could also use a personality. He seems a bit generic and simple. Also, if would help if you make the back story more visible, like put spaces in between the information to make it stand out.

thanks! I can use that critism. i'm keeping the forms and i'll try and add his personality

Biohazard
February 21st, 2008, 03:22 PM
*cough*

[The following post contains heavy critism others including the creator may find offensive. Do not read if you are easily offended or tend to act out on anger.]


Now anyway.

The character sucks. it just....sucks. The whole "rage caused his true powers to be unlocked" thing is so horribly cliché. Not to mention, your character has far too many powers, super forms, and no weaknesses to speak of. This character is a GodMod in every sense of the word.
And the "Anti-Skippy"? A fucking joke. Sounds like something you'd see on Lazy Town or someother television show aimed at preschoolers. If you met someone named "Anti-Skippy", would you really be scared? I for one would be on the ground in a fit of uncontrolable laughter trying not to piss myself.

As for the character design itself, well putting it as mildly as possible (though the last thing I'm trying to do is take it easy on you), has much to be desired. You've added nothing as far as clothing or accessories; all you did was change come of Sonic's colors. Other than that it's the exact same sprite.

Oh wait. You gave him bangs. My bad.

The character needs a lot of work to say the least. :/ I've been in your position kid, and I know you don't want to hear someone talk about your character in such a way, but hey, how else are you going to improve unless someone gives you a nice smack upside the head and points out your flaws? Alot of people's chars start off badly, but you can always improve on them. A little thought and creativity is all it takes. If it's one thing I can congratulate you on its that you didnt involved him with any of the officials. Otherwise, I would completely chew you up for it.

Skippy
February 21st, 2008, 06:00 PM
*cough*

[The following post contains heavy critism others including the creator may find offensive. Do not read if you are easily offended or tend to act out on anger.]


Now anyway.

The character sucks. it just....sucks. The whole "rage caused his true powers to be unlocked" thing is so horribly cliché. Not to mention, your character has far too many powers, super forms, and no weaknesses to speak of. This character is a GodMod in every sense of the word.
And the "Anti-Skippy"? A fucking joke. Sounds like something you'd see on Lazy Town or someother television show aimed at preschoolers. If you met someone named "Anti-Skippy", would you really be scared? I for one would be on the ground in a fit of uncontrolable laughter trying not to piss myself.

As for the character design itself, well putting it as mildly as possible (though the last thing I'm trying to do is take it easy on you), has much to be desired. You've added nothing as far as clothing or accessories; all you did was change come of Sonic's colors. Other than that it's the exact same sprite.

Oh wait. You gave him bangs. My bad.

The character needs a lot of work to say the least. :/ I've been in your position kid, and I know you don't want to hear someone talk about your character in such a way, but hey, how else are you going to improve unless someone gives you a nice smack upside the head and points out your flaws? Alot of people's chars start off badly, but you can always improve on them. A little thought and creativity is all it takes. If it's one thing I can congratulate you on its that you didnt involved him with any of the officials. Otherwise, I would completely chew you up for it.

it's people like you who make you sick. hell your worst then SOTI on SB.

Skippy
February 21st, 2008, 06:01 PM
*cough*

[The following post contains heavy critism others including the creator may find offensive. Do not read if you are easily offended or tend to act out on anger.]


Now anyway.

The character sucks. it just....sucks. The whole "rage caused his true powers to be unlocked" thing is so horribly cliché. Not to mention, your character has far too many powers, super forms, and no weaknesses to speak of. This character is a GodMod in every sense of the word.
And the "Anti-Skippy"? A fucking joke. Sounds like something you'd see on Lazy Town or someother television show aimed at preschoolers. If you met someone named "Anti-Skippy", would you really be scared? I for one would be on the ground in a fit of uncontrolable laughter trying not to piss myself.

As for the character design itself, well putting it as mildly as possible (though the last thing I'm trying to do is take it easy on you), has much to be desired. You've added nothing as far as clothing or accessories; all you did was change come of Sonic's colors. Other than that it's the exact same sprite.

Oh wait. You gave him bangs. My bad.

The character needs a lot of work to say the least. :/ I've been in your position kid, and I know you don't want to hear someone talk about your character in such a way, but hey, how else are you going to improve unless someone gives you a nice smack upside the head and points out your flaws? Alot of people's chars start off badly, but you can always improve on them. A little thought and creativity is all it takes. If it's one thing I can congratulate you on its that you didnt involved him with any of the officials. Otherwise, I would completely chew you up for it.

it's people like you who make me sick. your worse than SOTI on SB. Burn in hell. just burn in hell.

Yvette
February 21st, 2008, 06:18 PM
Although Skippy's proclamation here is a bit more hateful than what I'd go for (two wrongs don't make a right, as the saying goes), I'd have to agree with SKippy here. In fact, I wrote a whole rant about it at one point that I'll quote here:

While substance is what should be considered by the recipient (i.e. the spriter, writer, artist, etc.), the critic does have a responsibility to consider the tact of his comment, the maturity of his audience, and shape his style accordingly. Being derogatory makes one hostile to one's audience, which makes that audience less likely to accept one's advice. Furthermore, (espescially with the teenagers who make online comics), it invites a hostile response, which can lead to all sorts of uncomfortable situations. I think ff any one of the harsh critics out there were ever in the position of being accurately told "This is shit" (as can commonly be said about the substance of their critique) they would react just as the supposed "n00bz" do.

Besides, the offended artist is generally not really attacking her critic's style. She is more voicing indignation, (in many cases justified), for the apathy or even hate that the critic's style seems to communicate for her feelings or value. I cannot stress enough how important one's attitude in writing a critique is. Artists associate themselves with their art. If you call it crap, you are calling them crap. No, this is not a mature reaction, but most teenagers on a teenage forum doing teenage things are not particularly mature.

((And no, believe it or not, most teenagers are not dissuaded by a "you might get offended by this" sign.))

Certainly, all artists err occasionally (if not commonly), and need to be pointed in the right direction. This does not give critics the right to viciously attack their art. Naturally a teenager, already wracked with doubt about her own worth, is going to view nasty critics as the enemy. What "this is the most crappy and unoriginal piece of shit I've seen in a while," communicates is, "You are talentless and unimaginative." From my experience, hateful critics only make newbs feel worthless, hurt, or angry, depending on their disposition, and the specific situation. The weaker ones get depressed and quit, while the others rebel and end up getting involved in flaming. Very rarely will any juvenile teenager (to which group I belong) react productively to hateful commentary. If what the citic is saying (or the stereotypical, egotist of a teen, who takes everything said about the art personally, gathers from the crit) is true, then she's hopeless. She might as well give up. After all, if she's talentless and unimaginative, why should she ever improve? And if she keeps going, she's just going to get bashed more, and feel even more crappy, and depressed with herself.

Sure, it's "not your problem" if you make the artist feel like crap, but an elementary appreciation for the feelings of others is a basic part of any ethical code!!!! It's basic decency!!! It's being human!! It's the foundation of our meaning and value! Love of other people is the beginning and end of any earthly ethical code! There is no law that does anything more than defend us against what happens when we place ourselves before others.

For those who say that the artist should not take it personally, that has to do with the maturity of the teenager, and there are precious few adults that have defeated egotism to such an extent, that they would not take offense to "This is shit." At best, the artist will ignore that crit as a meaningless attack, and learn nothing. One should exclude her ego both when receiving and giving advice.

Why hurt an artist, when you can firmly, repeatedly, and kindly point out the flaws with what they do, without ever using profanity, or a condescending tone? I might suggest that some use their talents and experience to build their own egos, and the attacks they make are their way of solacing their self-worth. (Note: This is certainly not always the case, and I'm sure there are critics out there that honestly believe that pain brings about change, and honestly just want to help.)

Consider the modern educational system. Very rarely will you find a middle-school or high-school teacher (or at least an effective one) who motivates her students by tirading about the crap they do. Rather, they repeatedly and impersonally mark what is wrong, and enthusiastically, and personally praise what is right.

Think about what would motivate you to change. Would it be an attack, or a firm but benevolent gesture that says "I want to help. Here's what you're doing wrong"?


Skippy's reaction was VERY predictable, and quotes like "The character sucks. It just sucks," and "It's just a fucking joke," are not to be justified by that whole "I put a warning!" or "He needed a smack beside the head!" Very, very, very few people take that kind of hate well, and as a critic, you have a responsibility to consider that. You are helping no one.

Note that this whole thing was written almost entirely to the critic. As for the artists, we DO have a responsibility to handle criticism with as much maturity as we can muster. The more we can listen to what's wrong with our work, the faster we'll improve.

Kursed
February 21st, 2008, 06:25 PM
Skippy, consisder the commites as a way of improving your character, not making you feel bad. IF you listen and not jump to the point

(Don't mind my spelling I'm just having a bad-spelling day)

Biohazard
February 21st, 2008, 06:50 PM
Skippy, consisder the commites as a way of improving your character, not making you feel bad. IF you listen and not jump to the point

(Don't mind my spelling I'm just having a bad-spelling day)

Thank you, Valkyre.

Skippy's reaction was VERY predictable, and quotes like "The character sucks. It just sucks," and "It's just a fucking joke," are not to be justified by that whole "I put a warning!" or "He needed a smack beside the head!" Very, very, very few people take that kind of hate well, and as a critic, you have a responsibility to consider that. You are helping no one.

I see where you're coming from, but I am a very brutally honest person. As long as I am speaking my honest opinion, I care very little, if at all, about whether or not my words offend anyone. Though it was not my intent to be appear offending, I dont care at all if he is angry. The comment wasnt meant to make him feel good, it was meant to make him reconsider the thought he put into his character and change some things around. People tend to look down upon recolors and godmods. This character is both.


it's people like you who make me sick. your worse than SOTI on SB. Burn in hell. just burn in hell.

I apologize for assuming you were mature enough handle criticism and not take it to heart. I shouldnt have expected so much of you.

Look boy, I'm speaking as someone who's been in your shoes before, not as someone who is just flaming you and your character with no reason to justify it.

I was not flaming you. I told you what I did or did not like about your character, and gave you reasons for it. Flaming it critique without a reason.

You need to stop acting like a child when someone presents you with a comment you are not particularly fond of. Maybe my words were rather harsh, but thats my nature. I'm very honest, with EVERYone, so don't think I'm just picking on you.

Black Knight
February 22nd, 2008, 01:38 AM
There was nothing wrong with Bio's comments, it's just up to artists to learn to take critique.

Don't flame again Skippy.
I would post a comment or crit on your character, but I don't have much of an opinion on it.

Jaícei
February 22nd, 2008, 04:57 AM
uhhhh, rofl.

I'm with Bio here, and frankly her post was not particularly discourteous, chum. Blunt, but useful and extending even a gesture of empathy and encouragement. Often, if too much we conceal our words with vacant pampering we serve only to loose constitution.

There's no other way to say what needs to be done here; tear it down to the skeleton and start from scratch. It's a wreck, my friend. I know it hurts terribly to hear someone belittle a creation you made and you love, but most of us have been there and in time you'll see hearing it straight is the best tract. You'll never be able to create a character that everyone will appreciate, and no matter what others say your opinion is indeed most vital- but, really, you can do better than this and I think you know it. On a Neopets RP board this would be fine, but we're trying to help you at least get this up to middle-school quality. So I gently advise you leave your ego at the door and thank critiquers instead of being a callow lulzcow. Or don't. I win either way.

I doubt you'll be able to bite down your pride long enough to make use of them, but I'll post a couple pages I found on google that may be helpful in case of a breakthrough:
http://concept-mobius.technoguild.com/info/fancharactersindex.htm
http://www.springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm
http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Making-a-Mary-Sue
http://www.sonicstadium.org/board/index.php?showtopic=31755

And now, copypasta:
Try using a species that Sonic Team hasn't used yet, and don't base their design too heavily off an existing sonic character either. IE, don't make a porcupine by pasting extra spikes on a purple sonic.
Try looking through images and info of exotic animals for inspiration, as some of them have really unique natural abilities you could incorporate into your character- like how Horned Lizard's squirt streams of blood from their eyes to stun prey and predators.

It helps a lot if you can draw to some extent or at least have strong visualization skills to get a concrete grip on your character's design.

For their personality, try to make them at least semi-three dimensional. The Sonic fandom has pretty low standards in this regard, but nonetheless come up with a character with different ethics, motives, and a unique disposition to set them apart from the canon ones.

Don't over-power them; they should not exist only to show up the canons. I personally think fan characters should not have super forms, but if you want one it's not really a huge deal. One last thing- don't make them family/lovers of canon characters and avoid elemental abilities. It's considered undesirable and unoriginal in this and most fandoms.Best wishes,
Your friend and confidant, JC.

Skippy
February 22nd, 2008, 10:18 AM
fine, i apologise for flaming. i got mad and i'm pretty sensative/agressive (not the best combo) but i put a lot of work into my character. and for it to be called a joke just got me mad. So i apologise and i'm 13. give me a break. i an't mature yet, so i don't handle mature comments that well.

Shackel11
March 22nd, 2008, 11:40 PM
Okay, that DESERVES so many flames it isn't even funny. I'll put a milded down version in place of this post when I figure out how to make it NOT a flame.

Jaícei
March 23rd, 2008, 02:02 AM
Okay, that DESERVES so many flames it isn't even funny. I'll put a milded down version in place of this post when I figure out how to make it NOT a flame.
Did it make you feel like a big man? :deadhorse:

Shackel11
March 23rd, 2008, 01:03 PM
Did that make you feel like a big girl?

Jaícei
March 23rd, 2008, 03:11 PM
Did that make you feel like a big girl?
I am a woman, sir.



inb4:lock1:

Claw the perv
March 23rd, 2008, 03:48 PM
I didn't even read the story because of the unatractive recolor.

Shackel11
March 23rd, 2008, 07:13 PM
Sure you are.

Claw, don't judge a book by it's cover. Someone could have a girl Shadow and have a JAWSOME and original history.... Ya know?

Claw the perv
March 23rd, 2008, 08:33 PM
You ever heard of a 'hook'?