The good, the bad, and the idiotic?

[Steel Valor]

I sorta got this idea from BK who made a smart remark in the suggestion thread. So I thought I'd make the Discussion threads a little more serious. Just don't start bitching at each other though. The idea however, hit me because we're studying The Aneid of Virgil and defining good and evil. But that's not the point here. Do you believe in good or evil? Do you believe that there is one overall boundary line that seperates the innocent from the wicked? Is a person born good or born evil? Or is life based on survival of the fittest? Do you think that the people in prison deserve what they get sentenced? What about the people in Death Row? Tell me what you think and don't hesitate to voice your opinion. I'll say mine a little later though...

EDIT: AND PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY!

[Oscar!2000]

I beilieve in good, Yes i beleieve there is a line to separate the wicked, it think a person is born good, I think people sentenced to prison deserve to be there, i don't beileve in death row, I think .................

[Black Knight]

*cracks knuckles* Lets get started then...

I don't believe in such a thing as 'Good' or 'Evil'. If a person fights for something then they believe that they fight for what's 'right' for what's 'good'.

We think the KKK are evil, but they think they're 'good' and 'right'.
We think that terrorists are evil, but they believe that they are 'good' and 'right'.

Good, right, evil and wrong are just words. What I believe is that there's people with more positive or negative qualities, views or morals.

Wanting to hurt others is negative, wanting to kill others for a 'cause' is also negative. I'm christian, but I still don't believe that God is 'good' and Lucifer is 'Evil'. God isn't perfect, just like Lucifer weren't perfect. Lucifer just had more negative qualities and thus he became satan and got stuck on power hunger, hate and revenge.


Racism is a negative view, but it's not evil, because that's a subjective view from person to person.

There is no good, no evil, no right and no wrong, only a whole load of views, oppinions, morals and etiks.

[Ziggy]

Evil Just plain Evil
for some reason I seem so cheerful now and days, But the truth is...I'm the most hated in this forum right now. Might as well live by my rep.

Oscar, do you even know what Death Row is?

[Steel Valor]

Ok time to get started. Honestly for all of those who know me, I'm quite biblical. Yes that means I live my life towards God and the way he intended it too. Some people say that there is no God but that is just merely their point of view. However do not mistake me that just because I believe in God and Jesus Christ that doesn't mean I believe in good or evil.

I believe that they are simply just point of views. The way I see it: Point of View is both the crumbling foundation of human civilization. POV always conflicts with it self and in order to keep our race balanced we have these conceptions. I live my life the way I want to live it: Clean, successful, and enjoyable. However once again the point of view of others leads to criticism of what I do. Say for example if I set a squirrel on fire others will say its wrong or it's bad. But in my POV I'm just trying to enjoy myself with something interesting to watch.

I think there are 3 thing that seperates and categorizes us: Honor, Justice, and Intelligence. So yes, basically I think that everything is based on POV and there is no good or evil. Just God...

[Black Knight]

What you state is very true, IMO, Steel...

Cause when could someone give a solid explanation on what Good is except 'It's what you believe is right and just'?
And that Evil is what you are if you do things wrong.

[Ziggy]

What doesn't is that a portion of the population, thinks that just because you disobey with something positive, or even if your religion is different, they think you're bad and evil.

[Espio]

I voted good.
Mainly because I am always a nice person to people and I want to stay that way. Besides being mean makes you start taking drungs and drinking alcohol. That's what I know....:cool:

[Steg]

There cant be a good without an evil, otherwise we'd all be dancing around naked in meadows. As awesome as that may be, I'll say I dont care. Good things happen, bad things happen, and other stuff happens. It's just all part of life, and I just go with it.

Theres a saying I used to say to annoy people, which may be relavent here. "There are two things in this world. Me, and everything else".

[Loco_the_Exclaimer]

I believe in good and evil.
Evil is sin, so what else can good be but things that are not evil?

[Black Knight]

Yes, but how do you define sin so EVERYONE agrees with you? Good and Evil are just two words, Good is what a person find is right and Evil is what a person find to be wrong.

Homophobes finds it wrong to be Gay and homphobes don't think they're evil for thinking that way, while most others would think they are.

If someone killed a man to protect his/her family then some would say that what they did was Good, while others would be stuck on the fact that someone was killed and say that it's Evil.

So, please do define what is Good and Evil to you? What is it that EVERYONE agrees on is Good and Evil?

[Espio]

To me is sounds like you're trying to hide the fact you're evil.

[Black Knight]

And how do you figure that? What evil deed am I apparently covering up through asking Loco what sin there is in the world that everyone can agree on?

Evil and Good are just words after all, how do you know that this 'Evil deed' you speak of that I apparently have commited is not Evil or a sin to me?

[Deano]

The definition of good and evil depends entirely upon the opinion of those discussing it. Even dictionaries don't have a straight definition for 'evil' or 'good', in the sense of "Good - Pancakes" and "Evil - Osama Bin Laden", it depends entirely upon where you stand on the matter.

[Steel Valor]

Once again it all goes back to POV. I think it is impossible that if someone is born evil. The same thing goes with being born good. The only reason we classify ourselves like this is to govern ourselves with some sort of order and "peace".

[Bigsy]

In my opinion, good and evil are just little words we label our beliefs and our hates with. It seems ridiculous to me to think we could ever completely define these terms, as anything like this depends on morals and subjective opinion. And that's before we evern think about religion. It's petty to label something you detest or don't believe in as evil, simply because you don't agree.

[Reizer Atma]

Its not as simple as good and evil sometimes, its all about balance. One can't exist without the other, two sides of the same coin.

[Shotgun da ferret]

I believe in Good because if I were evil then I would be posting stuff like "I am going to kill my principle" or other what not. We all have a way of living our lives that we refer to as "good". But you can't have good without evil. Both of them need to balanced. Otherwise everything would be messed up if there was all good or all evil.

[Black Knight]

And what if your principle was a peadophile? A lot of people wouldn't find you evil for saying 'I am going to kill my principle!' in that case.

Evil tends to be defined with harming others for no reason or reasons of selfishness.
Everyone can agree on that rape is evil because there can be no other reason for rape then that the rapist is simply lustful and wants to satisfy their needs.
A lot of people wants to say that killing is evil, but in that case the U.S.A. goverment is evil for having death penalty and armies are just spawn of evil because they exist to kill.

[I_Luv_Tails]

good and evil. Though there is a fine line that defines them.